By the way I went to Winchmore Secondary Modern in the days when Mr. Shepherd was headmaster I liked him a lot the naughty kids called him the beak but he was a nice man. Ooooh now youve switched a bright light on.The Pilgrims Rest what a gem. If so I knew him, he was a great friend of my Father Frank Watling who found the Fives Social Club. yes recall them well. Lots of great memories. Its population was very small, and there were no more than a few isolated houses in the mid-17th century. He also made excellent onion omelettes. I bet you noticed big changes to the shops in PG when you went to The Fox. Just request to join and add your own memories and photos. Hi Reg. Lovely tiered plates of sandwiches and cakes. The, I lived in a flat over Walton, Hassell & Port in Alderman's Hill. By 1801 Palmers Green had 54 dwellings, including two inns and two farms. Despite the opening of the station on Aldermans Hill in 1871, little development occurred at first, mainly because wealthy landowners like the Taylor family had no need to sell. Going back toward Hedge Lane on the North sideremember a chap who used to make basket work/wicker goods/walking sticks? Hello Brian, Im so glad you remember Dr Baxter. Penny for the Guy! The name Bezazz brings back happy memories of the late 50s and early 60s. After the war Jack edited the magazines Lilliput and Picture Post, before being recruited by the National Farmers Union to set up a new information department. on Improbably famous in Palmers Green #5: Jack Hargreaves, on Intimate demolition plans: Just a minute says Nicholas Parsons, The twentieth century and urban life in literature, Palmers Green Baptist Church, Green Lanes, Palmers Green United Reformed Church, Fox Lane/Burford Gardens, St Georges Presbyterian Church, Fox Lane / St Georges Road (demolished), Palmers Green and Southgate Synagogue, Brownlow Road, Palmers Green Mosque and Education Centre, Oakthorpe Road, Local dignatories, bigwigs and characters, Improbably famous in Palmers Green #5: Jack Hargreaves, Intimate demolition plans: Just a minute says Nicholas Parsons, http://www.palmersgreenn13.com/2015/11/03/every-street-in-palmers-green-5-ladies-and-gentlemen-live-from-palmers-green/, For more about the Intimates heady days of stage and screen, see. Nicholas Parsons and Steven Berkoff are among the latest stars who have trod the Intimates boards and are now calling for the theatre to be saved. David.just seen your mail regardin Palmers\Geen Photo istory and sees you now lives in Australiado you know my cousin Jill Rann (as was) lived at 22 The Larches.N13? You might remember the Saturday boy who wrote the window tickets and went on to be a successful photographer in the eighties. Sylvia, I. He was a brilliant dancer and he and his partner won many competitions in the old days. He played an accordion and the drums for many of the big orchestras and hotels in central London. Also remember Mrs Dark who took 4A, an excellent teacher. Grouts the haberdashers on the corner of Green Lanes and a small side road the name of which I cant recall and then a little further down, near Fox Lane and on the other side a huge white post office. He was very stern and terrified me! I remember once using the underground public toilet at the triangle and sure there was an assistant there in the days before we considered disabled people. I bought my red Mk III Ford Cortina from Keiths in the mid-late 1970s and my maye, Dave Todd bought a bright yellow one from the same dealer as I recall. Janes & Adams, Wendy. Yes, remember it as Roberts. If my memory is correct that represented .W.W. He said there was money all over the place and as far as he could see it was all being collected up to be given back, The other corner was also hit and certainly Keith`s cars set up business there and eventually on both sides of Sidney Avenue, becoming a flourishing business. I remember Tom I worked opposite him at Triangle Cars for 5 years in th 60s . Singing Tom used to give me all the flower heads to play with. I was born 1935 in Clapton E. Clapton Mothers Home, but my Mum was born in 1917, er Mum born in St. Pancras Workhouse (next to St. Pancras Station Lunnon) of them days.,Mum went to skool in Islington of very poor (financial m,barrased) parents (both boxmakers on the premises)annyway er memories included bein sent from er classroom in Islington with a friend as escort on the tram to Ulleswater Road, Palmers Green, becos er teacher ad left certain documents behind (or wassit sanwiches (any teacher memories ere?). Lovely caf. Then out agin on bike round to Patricias house and on to Capitol Winchmore Hill (if in money) or Queens, Palmers Green. thanks to Mr Sheppard, our brilliant Headmaster who never gave up on us and of course Mrs Phair who was the most fantastic teacher ever created-.such a `one off, Dear David and Pennie, must interjectno rushannyway, avin a larf in cornywall now and rememberin Palmers Green an Winchmore ill. Play nicely please. The manager was named Mr Hemmings and his daughter Lesley was a good friend of mine in the Girl Guides at St Johns Hall, Spent hours with bits of wire making stemless posies! Clock out 5.30 pm and ride home. Good lunch time food & very good value. It was a super meeting place for a great crowd, all feeling very sophisticated drinking coffee from glass cups. I remember juke box was playing a lot of Take these Chains From my Heart and set me Free. Last I heard he was still alive and well in his house in The Meadway, starving comfortably! I remember one of my friends falling into the river off the bridge and clambering out the other side after swimming under the bridge in the river current. I dont remember you should I? No Dave,my brothers name is Derek married to Cathy. At the time Kennings had a garage in Edmonton which I remember was a Jaguar dealer so I imagine our old car hire site was the Jaguar dealer you recall and would most likely have also been a Kennings branch. We've had many contributors recognising themselves or loved ones in our photographs. Seems a long time ago now! . Grants in Bloomfield; Old Bus with Palisades Ad; Ben Franklin in Pompton Lakes; Colonial Theater in downtown Pompton Lakes; Main WebPalmer Green Estates, in Palmer, MA, is an affordable community designed with families and seniors in mind. I was born in Oakthorpe Road during the War (February 1944) and attended the Convent in Oakthorpe Road. There was nearly always a queue to have your hair cut and my Mum would go shopping while I and my brothers sat and waited next to the coat stand. 2023 Palmers Green Jewel in the North, Palmers Green history, people and community, I am writing to you in search for information about a. I am currently researching for my book about my grandmother, who left for London in the 1950s to work as a housekeeper and to be with her then later husband Colin Russel Fisher, a merchant seaman, whom she met at one point in Copenhagen. Can anyone help?my partner is looking for his father.his fathers name is trevor george burgess and the only info we have is trevors mother lived on princes ave palmers green.if anybody knows of the above person and can help my partner find his dad please contact me on 07986272734.thankyou for reading x. At the 1960 Masters Tournament, Palmer gave a glimpse of things to come when he birdied the final two holes to nip Ken Venturi and win by a stroke. The former Southgate Town Hall has now been converted into flats. Also went to Hazelwood Lane school then to Winchmore school previously. When a change of scenery was called for, it was all off to the Amelia coffee bar in Oakwood. Lots of happy memories of Palmers Green ice cream at John Coombs sweet shop. I lived next to the Bird In Hand Pub in the early 79s, but my grandparents used to own a toy and Oran shop on the corner of Tottenham road and wolves lane. Please take a look at Palmers Green Virtual Ward Panel Survey for January 2023 via the link below. I went there 1953 1958. yes: miss belfontaine was head of Hazelwood juniors and mis hughes head of infants. Will email direct Hello Dave, I didnt know Victor Madden when he was young as I live in Ely, nr Cambridge, but luckily, I met Victor on a Rock and Roll weekender in 2009 and we spent the next 7 years together. Yell.com Yell Business. Bruno would leave the bar at 9.30pm each night, snooker cue in hand and walk to the Cock Tavern for several beers & a few games of snooker. I lived in New River Crescent 1950, 60s and 70s. Some good times at Arnos. Mildred E. Barry appointed to East Orange Im impressed. Since 1970 Ive lived in the Netherlands and from 1980 am the fortunate owner of a mint condition, unrestored 1963 Jaguar Mk 2, 3.4 litre. Possibly during WW2 it was requisitioned for war work. Good times eh Dad?. Thanks for your rememberins. I owned a Maicoletta scooter in those days which out- paced the Vespas and Lambrettas of those days. Had good times in Broomfield park and fishing in Grovelands park lake. Happy memories of Greenwood Gate Tennis Club in the Rec too, circa 1959 1963. Er, Dave, surely The Bezazz opened nearer 1957 than 1967 frothy coffee and all that. . Anyone remember him? The headmistress was Miss Belfontaine. So a fuss over nothing. Ill be checking your face book page. Wishin you Happy New Year! . There was and old git who served behind the sweet counter. Wendy (was Wendy Small ), Hello Wendy, I do recall the ladies shop you mean. Biking from The Larches to Holborn Kingsway, clock in at 8 am, carry bike up 4 flights of stairs, no smoking allowed, no sitting down cept lunch time at the frame. Definitely around 1958 when Bezazz opened: frothy coffee in tiny glass cups. Ive only just found your comment. Monica's Church, Palmers Green St Monicas, 1 Stonard Road, Palmers Green, London N13 4DJ Phone: (+44) 020 8886 9568 Email: palmersgreen@rcdow.org.uk Website: Sylvia 0 I grew in in NRC, What was there before the maisonettes were built. The Beezaz was like a second home !! 6% was Indian and 5% of 'any other ethnic group'. I went there with my sister and her friends I think the Small Faces were signing autographs ? We moved to Crawley in about 1955 or 6. The ice cream was served from a sliding glass hatch facing the street, so you didnt have to go inside if an ice cream was all you wanted, in the summer the servery was always open otherwise a light tap on the glass and brother or sister would serve you with beautiful soft ice cream in a cone and a smile all for threepence. Celia Rutterford, Thanks so much for your reply I havent lived in Palmers Green since the late 60.s and loved living there.so many memories and so much fun again thanks. Which barbers do you mean? 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Until they pulled the cinema down and built Telsco's. Cafe between Gambles an J an Adams (Ma says not goin in there Raymond, too cheep ) on our way back from The Palmadium. Lived in Melville Gardens and Grenoble Gardens. Does anyone remember Palmers Green High School in the early to mid 60s. N21. Was sad to see it go. Thank you so much. Did you work in the Muswell Hill shop? Very interesting. I know Pete and Bill Starling locally, not related though. Thanks. I still hanker for an ice cream like Doms scraped onto a cornet with a spatula not scooped! One of us is going mad!! Now Mr Shepherd, Im afraid that a majority were not keen,malthough you must speak as you find. How does it feel, seeing these places again, as they used to look? Hi Jenny ! I remember headmaster Mr Bennett at t ottenhall rd junior school Remembering the first Wimpy Bar which opened just near Woolworth's and of course, the wonderful Broomfield Park which offered space, beauty, fun, and sport. I smiled when I read about the visits to Dom's Cafe, just a five minute walk from the school. I also recall Roberts toy shop on the other side. Local records mention a Palmers Field in 1204 and a Palmers Grove in 1340. Saturday morning pictures at the Palladium was always good fun watching Roy Rogers, Flash Gordon etc. Hey are you the same Anne Poole from Southgate SC. Other fine dinin hexperiences in dear ol Palmers Greengeograffical-wise goin east. two of the teachers l remember and Mr bennet was our headmaster,.true air raid shelter was at the top of the play ground. I attended Bowes Road School and Southgate County Grammar School. I think that he worked on the railways. Annyway back to Patricia (and her Ma), they worshipped Grouts and in my stores upstairs I ave loads oGrouts stuff and the 60s lectric Singer sewing machine kept ready an oiled like for my grandaughter (6) and er new baby sister comin October. Fortunately my mother never chastised me about it. Remember Martins the newsagents- corner of Green Lanes and Hedge Lane. It was there that John Herbert (Jack) was born on 31 December. We lived in Upsdell Avenue from 1941 to 1957. As previous I lived in the Larches from 1938 at no 64. Keith Headley, did you live on N.C.R? as many did back then or another location. I remember the Coffee place & it wasnt Home & Colonial.. that was a few doors up!! Do you remember the Toy shop opposite too? Jack enjoyed the rough and ready country life, hunting, shooting and fishing and the farm became his second home. Further up from Ashwells towards Devonshire Rd.was a beautiful shop selling china and glass.This was close to the shop with the heavy coffee smella quite small shop which was probably next door to the 2nd. The Intimate Theatre was opened in a building that had been built in 1931 as St Monica's Church Hall. Thank you Suzanne. (appy Famiily memories agin, eh? I ad no spare cash for new comics in them daysdid you ever deliver the EagleIm payin 8.00 a copy for the good ones now.. My grandparents moved to Palmers Green in 1910. The money offered was flushed along and up to the cashier in the small glass fronted cash office, high up. Palmers Green is mentioned in Jona Lewie's song "You'll Always Find Me in the Kitchen at Parties" (1980). I bet virtually nobody has one of these fictitious Swiss bank accounts etiher. Also Jack the window cleaner who lost a leg at the Somme. Doms! I lived in Tottenham rd all through the war being born in ,1935. Southgate County School organised its annual swimming gala there whilst I was at the school from 1948-53, under the leadership of Mr. Reg Pratt, the handicrafts master. I lived in Palmers Green from 1938 to 1964. There may soon be one fewer historic building in Palmers Green following news this week of plans to demolish the Intimate Theatre and replace it with a new parish centre and flats. When you entered the shop there was another door immediately opposite the entrance door. Palmers Green was once a tiny hamlet in the parish of Edmonton, situated at the junction of Green Lanes and Fox Lane. Holborn). Share this forum post Facebook Email or phone Password Forgot After the war it was on weekly visit. I will try & search the attic for the pic & copy & send it. There is a parade of shops known as Palmers Green Shopping Centre along Green Lanes, with many restaurants, clothing shops, independently owned cafes, beauty salons, and branches of Superdrug, Wetherspoons (The Alfred Herring), Boots UK, and Morrisons. Walked there & back four times a day! The owner, Bruno & his wife lived opposite in Green Lanes 3rd floor above Phiipes: Ladies Hairdressers. Lovely to have you posting again Raymond Randolph! When we were small the barber put a piece of wood across the arms of the chair for us to sit on or we could not be seen in the mirror! He even used to ask children for a tip! I used to get home absolutely filthy but so happy. Clowes Sports Ground, Barrowell Green, London N21 1961-2016- Satellite Ground. Miss Tibbets was the head I believe. She would sit regally on the little wooden chairs by the counter. I have written up many of my memories.. Hello Roger. Even on cross country runsI wonder what dear old Mr Robertson, Physical Training Master at Southgate County would have commented. An album is a way to save a selection of Frith photos, maps and memories that are of interest to you. Recommended option Train Take the train from Old Street to Palmers Green 24 min 5 - 8 3 alternative options Line 141 bus Palmers Green, The Triangle c1965. Sylvia. Palmers Green to Tottenham by bus The bus journey time between Palmers Green and Tottenham is around 8 min and covers a distance of around 2 miles. The North Circular Road and A10 are the main trunk roads. Palmers Green is mentioned as a highway in 1324 (in Westminster Abbey Muniments). I used to get birthday cards and my daily paper there. I used tio get my school uniform in Evans & Davies. My father was in the home guard and attended when the bomb dropped at that site, it was a dance hall at the time. Everett was the first black lad in our school in the mid 50s. Happy times Hazelwood Primary School, Hazelwood Lane youth club, the Rec on sunny days. In Green Lanes itself there were 2 jewellers too. Less than one year into their full opening, automated cycle counts at September 2018 already suggest 10-12k trips by bike per month within Palmers Green. I now live in Bedfordshire. And for Freya, sad as it evidently was when articulated in her marvellous single, Lost Without Lots of predictable responses. He made me move it in all directions to see what damage Id done and he really hurt me but he was so stern that I was too scared to complain and laid there with my eyes filled with tears but kept a stiff upper lip and wouldnt cry as that would have been seen as weak! No I cannot remember the name of the garage and can barely remember the garage let alone that it was selling Jags. Oh and one of our members mum and aunt used to work there! Hi Dave, I do remember you and your dads photography business. PS. Do you John manses I use to buy my records in the 70s and 80s, Lived in Palmers Green from 1966 to 1987. We would love to hear about your memories of the area, andhow ithas changed, over a cup of tea. I recall Evans and Davis, Jane and Adams and the owner had an e type jaguar. .and ALWAYS ordered egg, sausage & chips. Have a nice trip! Some major congestion still exists on the A406. Nice to hear from you. Like me, she does remember the car dealer being there though. There were no school playing fields so we had to go to Ford's Grove in Winchmore Hill for sport. Details of the garage are in my 1963 copy of the Jaguar Sales & Service Facilities in the United Kingdom. All rights reserved. Hi Raymond My memory goes back to 1956, I would have been 8 years old and my Dad used to take myself & my younger brother to Doms most Saturdays during the summer holidays for a midday lunch treat, He would put us on one of the 5 bar stools which were positioned at the rear of the cafe on the right hand side, we would pick up the menu because it looked grown up! Obviously at that time, there werent many shops selling fresh coffee let alone grinding it on the premises. Can you remember the name of it? Mrs Gibbs, Mr Roper, Mrs Langford(Nee Anstey) Mrs Potts, Mrs Buchannon, Mr Hollingsworth, Mr Streatham,Mrs Chapman, Mrs Rupert, Also the caretaker who was aptly named Mr Moody. Ho for the old days, Mike, (have you still got the Roller!?) We recently had an email from Bente Dalsbaek who is trying to trace members of her family from when they lived in Palmers Green in the 1970s. Dads brother, Uncle Sid Rann lived at no 22. All had presentsmine was miniature guitarwere you at that party? The walls were lined with painted tongued and grooved wood. Opposite Grouts well almost. The, Today is the 7th July. Im sure Fred Rain lived in the Larches. Some boys from Winchmore worked for him on the window cleaning. of life as it was when the photographs in our archive were taken. I think Myrtle Road was built in 1950, is that right? 1955-1957. Okay Pennie. It was owned later by a mate of mine Bruno. In the late 60s, early 70s a small ladies shop appeared near Burtons. Best teacher was the top class with Mr Smith. Did I swap it or sell at a profit. Long, snaking queues, which criss-crossed one another, as our parents stood in line for individually weighed out and wrapped packs of sliced bacon, cheese, tea, eggs etc. Most of the sites stayed flattened for many years afterwards some right up to the 60s. It was a journey to Southern Television to give them a piece of his mind about an inaccurate programme on meat marketing that gave him his next big break, headhunted by top man Roy Rich to become programme maker and controller of a new production, Farm in the South. Your change would come whizzing back in the rather splendid looking canisters. WebA winner by just 300 votes in 1990, Doug Palmer has easily been re-elected Trenton's mayor ever since. He was no secret in the new marriage, but remained in Copenhagen with his grandmother. Maybe a member will remember Jays. Does anyone remember Victor Value supermarket in Wood Green it was not far from the Civic center and before myddleton road. You walked up a long gravel path under the pergola to get to the house which had dark wooden panelling etc., very posh! Operated by London Buses and Go Ahead London, the Palmers Green to Tottenham bus service departs from Melville Gardens and arrives in Victoria Road Edmonton. My parents bought our furniture there. Regards, Brian Watling. [7], Green Lanes, the high street of Palmers Green, is featured in the "Knight Bus" sequence in the film Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.[8]. Why not add your memory today and become part of our I believe she moved up to Scotland after living in Ibiza for a while. Fantastic David, thats amazing. Best wishes Sun May 3rd 2015, at 7:28 pm, Palmers Green High Street Circa 1955 - 1960, Download this free history of the Collection. It is home to the largest population of Greek Cypriots outside Cyprus and is often nicknamed "Little Cyprus" or "Palmers Greek". After the dentist located at the Triangle mum would take me across to Lyons tea house, Download this free history of the Collection. in the 70s I delivered your free paper for a while. Just read (13.10.17) email of your history contribution. To meet the present and envisaged future needs of the parish, it is proposed to build a newParish Centre, one that will be a legacy for future generations. Thanks again. But the mac an the suit attracted my beloved Patricia nee Cable (Winchmore ill) (not me, you unnerstand). Baptist I lived in Pasteur Gardens from 1960 to 1966, and went to Oakthorpe School and the Latymer. An abundance of dress shops and Evans and DaviesAn unforgetable shop that sold everything. My first girlfriend used to go there, she was one of a pair of twins, the Bower girls. It was a black moment for Palmers Green as the bodies of the dead & injured were laid out on the pavement. I still as the familly piano bungin up my front room, opin the latist sprog will unravvell its potential. There was no bomb site where the garage was. I think it then became Volvo (Triangle Motors) followed by a high end mens outfitters selling suits, shoes etc. I remember Peter Townsend the sports car dealer opposite the library and the ABC and the Wimpy bar at the triangle. !.thank you for jogging my memory. After my first day in Old olborn never wore the suit agin at work or come to think o it, any suit (retired 1988). Boots the Chemist had a small book lending library upstairs and usually had a good selection of Enid Blyton Mysteries. Best regards, Nick Hurst. an dreemin on ..do you remember Lou Ansell and is Dance Band founded I believe at Hazlewood Lane Skool and practicin evenins before puttin on dances for the skool and other worthy causes. I cannot recall any other bombs round that area. I used to sing in the small choir there on stage just before the pictures started, members of the choir got in for nothing via the back door instead of having to pay sixpence like all the others. The owners were brother and sister Dominic & Anna both born in Italy who arrived in England after the second world war,they were very hard working & organised, so much so they only lived 200 yards opposite in Tottenhall Rd. I dont remember it being a bomb site though, Hi Jennie, Here is how it was reported by the BBC. In the last few years Windsor Rd closed and we had to go to W Hill. Just found this: The next occupant of the premises was Jays Furnishing Stores, a hire-purchase furniture store first listed in Wards 1911 directory. And the wonderful smell The one on the right going North was Cullens The coffee machine was dark red and black.Cullens also had another outlet nr the Cherry tree at the end of the Mall. I farms in Cornwall now an apologise for the grammer neglected at Southgate County Grammar (an spellins). One day I and a group of friends went to find Cliff Richard's house to try and get his autograph. He was a bit of a nifty jiver down Wood Green Jazz Club. Regards Me and my two brothers been discussing the dept store at the triangle but didnt think it was Evans & Davies at that time . G lenda Jackson met Stevie Smith on a poetry-reading platform in the 1960s, when the poet from Palmers Green came into a late-blossoming fame. Gerry. When were all the doctors, dentists, solicitors along Green Lanes private residences? However, local schools do still use Arnos Grove, Southgate, Edmonton Green pools etc. Please help! The smell really made me sick. I was born in Southgate in October 1936 and lived with my parents at 6 Tintern Gardens until September 1956, when they moved to Willingdon, Eastbourne. That would have been where visitors could wave to their loved ones in the hospital. . Magic for post-war Palmers Green teenagers. Life isnt all about the big How everyone stayed so skinny in those days I have no idea! It's easy to add your own memories and reconnect with your shared local Can someone confirm the existence of a Tesco store in Palmers Green at this time? I remember the Brody and Hicks name and Fotovalue. I remember the flower man James! Or anyone that you may imagine could know? I would supply Aubrey with items from the palmers green branch by which time I think you where becoming involved in running the shop KELVIN PHOTOS I suppose those of us `of a certain age` have lots of war memories stored away. Then came the day of the first postwar consignment of new Dinky ToysI was late in the queue, all vehicles sold but I did secure a Gun Emplacement Canon. Jack had a difficult childhood. Can you imagine what it would be like to be caught in an air raid? This marked the spot where lorries slowed, changed gear to ascend New River bridge and I would grab a tailboard chain and be towed up and up Bourne Hill by a Foden on my bicycle (not the Rudge yet) to St. Georges Road and peel off easily to Southgate County School in Fox Lane. I believe some time in the 80s Doms was sold but the new owner had the good foresite to retain the classic Doms signage, but not the good foresite to retain the ice cream servery!. ps. The Sunday People is crinkled and pages turned until the familiar tune begins: Say what you will, the countryside is still, Recorded by Max Bygraves in 1956 for the film Charley Moon, it was the original theme tune to Out of Town, a programme which, according to Television and Radio 1978 whether it shows the shoeing of horses, angling or rabbiting, presents a complete and unsentimental picture of country life in all its aspects.. I also bought a BSA Winged Wheel from them and had it fitted to my pushbike on which I commuted from Palmers Green to Tottenham Hale every day for my Apprenticeship at Keith Blackmans Ltd. A female named Jane lived above the J&A shop.

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